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SC

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:55 pm    Post subject: What if Mary had said no?

December 8, 2004 was be the 150th anniversary of the Immaculate Conception.

According to the dogmatic proclamation Ineffabilis Deus made by the Roman Church in 1854 Mary was born (preserved) without sin because God "prepared for his only- begotten Son a mother..."

Considering this, Catholics should consider this question.

What if Mary had said no.

Would God then be stuck with this sinless person walking around with nothing to do.

Or perhaps she couldn't say no, therefore, making all of Salvation history the biggest con-job ever committed and making Mary little more than a sacred cow.

I prefer this answer: In 1854 the Roman Church committed heresy when it tried to take away the dignity and free will from the real Mary. That it began down the long dirty road of making the Whore of Babylon co-God. As was predicted by God's Son, there would come a time when "false prophets will appear, performing signs and wonders so great as to mislead even the chosen if that were possible." (Matthew 24:24)

Or as Jesus warned through John's Revelation "You have turned aside from your early love. Keep firmly in mind the heights from which you have fallen. Repent, and return to your former deeds. If you do not repent I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place. But you have this much in your favor: you detest the practices of the Nicolaitans, just as I do." (Rev 2:4-6) (Nicolatians" perhaps the impostors...) Note from
the Catholic New American Bible)

I believe the Church is now inundated with the weeds Jesus spoke of in his parable where an enemy comes and sows bad seed. The servants come to the landowner when the weeds begin to appear wanting to know if they should remove them right then but they were told - no. "Pull up the weeds and you might take the wheat along with them. Let them grow together until harvest. Then at harvest time I will order the harvesters, first collect the weeds" and then burn them. (Matthew 13:29-30)

The beauty of the real Mary is that she was simple and did nothing out of the ordinary for a woman. Her greatest deed was to say YES to God. Something all people of all times have the ability and the obligation to do. To give God justice.

Now what of this Church of Rome? Does it still produce good fruit or is it choking to death on weeds? I believe Jesus answered that one too, "By their fruit so shall you know them."
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:16 pm   Post subject:

SC, in the case you didn't notice -- this is not a name-calling board, but a logic board.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:26 pm     Post subject: What if Mary had said no

Then what is the locial answer to the question:

What if Mary had said no.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:37 pm     Post subject:

SC wrote:
What if Mary had said no.

This would have been bad indeed.

Tom
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:55 pm nbsp;    Post subject: What if Mary had said no.

Bad? How so. Are you saying Salvation History would have failed if this one human had said no?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:45 am     Post subject:

No.
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